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[sticky post] The Maggie Sue-verse Chapter Link List
by Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
at September 19th, 2008 (11:00 pm)

In case you're new here, or just want to read our stories in order easily, we've put together a handy link list that you can refer to! We'll update this as we add more stories/chapters in the future.

Authors: jenny_wren28, lovely_rita_mm & pennylane_fic
Starring: The Beatles and Maggie Sue
Rating: R for language, sex, & implied drug use.
Disclaimer: We don’t own any of the Beatles, this obviously never happened, and much to the real Maggie’s disappointment, is a complete work of fiction.

Yes It Is

We started "Yes It Is" for fun - knowing that a "Mary Sue" Beatles fanfic, let alone a time travel one, was kind of silly. But we did everything in our power to make it as believable as possible and to keep everyone in character. Since then, I'm not sure you could call our main character a Mary Sue anymore, and we've been very flattered and happy that we've developed the following that we have. We sort of have started thinking of our story as a "Lost in Austen" for Beatles fans.

Prologue: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/283.html

Chapter 1: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/676.html

Chapter 2: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/845.html

Chapter 3: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/1199.html

Chapter 4: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/1454.html

Chapter 5: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/1632.html

Chapter 6: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/1855.html

Chapter 7: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/2128.html

Chapter 8: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/2410.html

Chapter 8.5: The First Time: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/20674.html

Chapter 9: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/2799.html

Chapter 10: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/2818.html

Chapter 11: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/3298.html

Chapter 12: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/3738.html

Chapter 13: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/3973.html

Chapter 14: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/4211.html

Chapter 15: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/4402.html

Chapter 16: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/4682.html

Chapter 17: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/5104.html

Chapter 18: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/5256.html

Chapter 19 & Epilogue: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/5519.html

Yes It Is: Stories

These short stories are essentially "one shots" that tell stories about what happens to Maggie Sue after the end of our main novel, Yes it Is. They serve to bridge the gap between it and the sequel, Tomorrow Never Knows.

Short Story 1: Lennon/McCartney
http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/5716.html

Short Story 2: A Comedy of Errors
http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/6058.html

Short Story 3: BFF
http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/6636.html

Short Story 4: Mrs. Lennon
http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/6867.html

Short Story 5: Girl Talk
http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/7370.html

Short Story 6: A Surprising Development
http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/7471.html

Short Story 7: Eppy
http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/7887.html

Short Story 8: A Day in the Life
http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/8057.html

Tomorrow Never Knows

The long-awaited sequel to Yes It Is!

Authors: lovely_rita_mm, jenny_wren28 & pennylane_fic
Starring: The Beatles and Maggie Sue
Rating: R for language, sex, & implied drug use.
Disclaimer: We don’t own any of the Beatles, this obviously never happened, and much to the real Maggie’s disappointment, is a complete work of fiction.

Chapter 1: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/8745.html

Chapter 2: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/9649.html

Chapter 3: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/9903.html

Chapter 4: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/10025.html

Chapter 5: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/10398.html

Chapter 6: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/10674.html

Chapter 7: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/10806.html

Chapter 8: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/11147.html

Chapter 9: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/11382.html

Chapter 10: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/11723.html

Chapter 11: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/11881.html

Chapter 12: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/12275.html

Chapter 13: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/12439.html

Chapter 14: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/12592.html

Chapter 15: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/13399.html

Chapter 16: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/13648.html

Chapter 17: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/14015.html

Chapter 18: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/14109.html

Chapter 19: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/14440.html

Chapter 20: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/14786.html

Chapter 21: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/14922.html

Chapter 22: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/15505.html

Chapter 23: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/15744.html

Chapter 24: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/15881.html

Chapter 25: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/16193.html

Chapter 26: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/16470.html

Chapter 27: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/16641.html

Chapter 28: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/16939.html

Chapter 29: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/17352.html

Chapter 30: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/17472.html

Chapter 31: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/17693.html

Chapter 32: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/17957.html

Chapter 33: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/18222.html

Chapter 34: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/18442.html

Chapter 35 & Epilogue: http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/18906.html


Real Love

The long-awaited sequel to Tomorrow Never Knows!

Authors: lovely_rita_mm & jenny_wren28
Starring: The Beatles and Maggie Sue
Rating: R for language, sex, & implied drug use.
Disclaimer: We don’t own any of the Beatles, this obviously never happened, and much to the real Maggie’s disappointment, is a complete work of fiction.

Chapter One: http://yesitis-fic.livejournal.com/22099.html

Chapter Two: http://yesitis-fic.livejournal.com/22502.html

Chapter Three: http://yesitis-fic.livejournal.com/22627.html

Chapter Four: http://yesitis-fic.livejournal.com/22971.html

Chapter Five: http://yesitis-fic.livejournal.com/23171.html

Chapter Six: http://yesitis-fic.livejournal.com/23807.html

Chapter Seven: http://yesitis-fic.livejournal.com/24061.html

Chapter Eight: http://yesitis-fic.livejournal.com/24182.html

Chapter Nine: http://yesitis-fic.livejournal.com/24597.html

Chapter Ten: http://yesitis-fic.livejournal.com/24954.html

Chapter Eleven: http://yesitis-fic.livejournal.com/25106.html

Chapter Twelve: http://yesitis-fic.livejournal.com/25430.html

Chapter Thirteen: http://yesitis-fic.livejournal.com/25779.html

Chapter Fourteen: http://yesitis-fic.livejournal.com/26056.html

Chapter Fifteen: http://yesitis-fic.livejournal.com/26292.html

Chapter Sixteen: http://yesitis-fic.livejournal.com/26397.html

Chapter Seventeen: http://yesitis-fic.livejournal.com/27015.html

Chapter Eighteen: http://yesitis-fic.livejournal.com/27241.html

Chapter Nineteen: http://yesitis-fic.livejournal.com/27569.html

More to come?



What If Stories

We wrote these stories purely for fun. Don't consider them "canon" - they're mostly "what ifs", some funny, some serious.

1) Tomorrow Never Knows Alternate Ending

2) Tomorrow Never Knows Alternate Chapter 25

3) It's Your Move (set before Tomorrow Never Knows during the making of Sgt Pepper)

4) An Interlude (set during "Yes It Is", after the party Maggie Sue attends with John and the Beatles)

5) The First Time (set after Chapter 8 of "Yes It Is", John and Maggie Sue's first time together.)

6) Just Like Starting Over, Part I (set sometime after the beginning of Chapter 6 of Yes It Is, it's an AU that explores another possible future for John and Maggie Sue)

7) Just Like Starting Over, Part II

8) Just Like Starting Over, Part III


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You can now buy print copies, or download free .pdfs of both Yes It Is and Tomorrow Never Knows!

PDFs: http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/lovely_rita_mm


http://www.lulu.com/content/paperback-book/yes-it-is/7443398


http://www.lulu.com/content/paperback-book/tomorrow-never-knows/8541872

We'd love it if you reviewed them for us too!





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Posted by: rebelle51 (rebelle51)
Posted at: June 18th, 2009 12:40 am (UTC)

Is 'Tomorrow Never Knows' still in the works? If so, a link please?

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: June 18th, 2009 12:52 am (UTC)

Hello! We're really glad you want to read our sequel! It is indeed in the works! We've got 6 chapters written, the rest outlined, and we'll start posting them as soon as we've got a few more of them written. We want to be able to post them fairly regularly. I'm hoping that by the end of July we should be doing that. So, please check back. You'll definitely see them posted here. Probably once we start, we'll comment to people to let them know!

We did post a sneak peek at the first chapter here:

http://community.livejournal.com/yesitis_fic/8353.html

Thanks again!

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: July 20th, 2009 02:02 am (UTC)

Posted by: Tangerine (fromthebrain)
Posted at: December 15th, 2009 07:19 am (UTC)
music

i figured i would just write this here since it's about all the chapters.

I just read everything you have posted in the "yes it is" universe and I love it. The whole concept though far-fetched works brilliantly and because of the outside character i found it a better way to get into the story.

I hope you continue to update!
:)

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: December 15th, 2009 02:40 pm (UTC)

Thank you so much! We're really happy that you like the story so much! That's a really nice compliment!

We have been posting a new chapter every Sunday - so look for the next update then! :-)

Posted by: ((Anonymous))
Posted at: February 28th, 2010 03:35 pm (UTC)

cant wait for later today!

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: February 28th, 2010 03:48 pm (UTC)

It's up!! :-)

Posted by: ((Anonymous))
Posted at: March 7th, 2010 06:18 pm (UTC)

wheres chapter 33?

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: March 7th, 2010 09:23 pm (UTC)

It's being posted today! We post a chapter every Sunday!

Posted by: ((Anonymous))
Posted at: March 7th, 2010 10:17 pm (UTC)

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: March 8th, 2010 12:27 am (UTC)

Posted by: elizabethizz (elizabethizz)
Posted at: March 10th, 2010 07:15 pm (UTC)

Two quick questions:
1. Is there going to be a third in this series? :D
2. If/When the third is all posted, are you going to sell all three as a pack on Lulu?

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: March 10th, 2010 08:02 pm (UTC)

Hi,

1) That's the plan! It'll take a little while for us to write enough to be able to start posting it. We want to have *at least* at 10 chapter lead, which is what we did this time. We had it plotted out from the start, though. We have Chap 1 of the 3rd book written, just haven't had time yet to do more right now, but we'll start that soon.

2) We could - if you have too many pages, it can be really expensive, but we can try to put all 3 in one and see how large it is! That will be pretty far in the future though, because the 3rd one isn't written you. We have definite plans to put Tomorrow Never Knows on Lulu once it's done being posted on LJ. :-)

Posted by: elizabethizz (elizabethizz)
Posted at: March 10th, 2010 08:45 pm (UTC)

Posted by: mushycat2409 (mushycat2409)
Posted at: March 12th, 2010 04:28 am (UTC)

Hey,
I absolutely love this series. It's so hard to find a really good Beatles fan fiction these days, especially one that's still going (a lot of the ones I've liked are no longer in progress and it's really disappointing to be left hanging) so it was a real delight to find this one! I'm really excited to see you'll be writing a third installment. I'll definitely be looking forward to it. In the meantime, do you know of any other good Beatles fan fiction I can add to my 'library'? Thanks!

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: March 14th, 2010 03:06 am (UTC)

Thank you so much!

This is one of my favorite Beatles fics, about what would have happened if the Beatles had reunited on SNL. It's really well-done.
http://mariole.livejournal.com/91696.html

You might like these stories too, though I think the last two aren't finished yet. Stand By Me is a "what would have happened if John had lived AU story" and it's awesome too.

http://community.livejournal.com/standbyme_fic/
http://community.livejournal.com/junk_fic/
http://community.livejournal.com/twst_fic/

Posted by: ((Anonymous))
Posted at: April 5th, 2010 04:18 am (UTC)

boo! nothing this sunday??

Posted by: elizabethizz (elizabethizz)
Posted at: April 5th, 2010 09:25 am (UTC)

Seconded!

Posted by: cricket99999999 (cricket99999999)
Posted at: May 13th, 2010 12:54 am (UTC)
!!!

we all are in need of an update.

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: May 17th, 2010 02:03 am (UTC)
Re: !!!

Hey - we told you guys we were only posting the short stories a few weeks apart - we'll post the next one when we're ready too, and it'll be a while before Book 3 is posted! Sorry!

Posted by: ((Anonymous))
Posted at: May 17th, 2010 01:59 am (UTC)

have you forgotten about us?? we need the next story we are going thru withdrawl!

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: May 17th, 2010 02:03 am (UTC)

Hey - we told you guys we were only posting the short stories a few weeks apart - we'll post the next one when we're ready too, and it'll be a while before Book 3 is posted! Sorry!

Posted by: scribesisland (politiguru)
Posted at: July 20th, 2010 05:28 pm (UTC)
Hello Any Update?

Since it's been a while I just wanted to send a quick hello. Also a while since you updated on the next story (Book 3), so how's it going? Please do keep occasional updates for all.

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: July 20th, 2010 05:33 pm (UTC)
Re: Hello Any Update?

You're just going to have to be patient. It will be a while before Book 3 gets posted, sorry - we all have real lives.

Posted by: scribesisland (politiguru)
Posted at: July 22nd, 2010 06:07 pm (UTC)
Re: Hello Any Update?

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: July 30th, 2010 02:37 am (UTC)
Re: Hello Any Update?

Posted by: Meggie-Leigh (meggieleigh)
Posted at: July 30th, 2010 02:11 am (UTC)
Love it :)

Hi! I've been reading this story since a few months back, and I just got a LJ account today so I just wanted to comment on this and say I really love it! This story makes me laugh and happy and sad, I think it's great. Can't wait to see more! :)

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: July 30th, 2010 02:34 am (UTC)
Re: Love it :)

Hi there - thanks so much for letting us know that you are enjoying the story! We're still working on the next one - it'll be a while, but it's in the works! :-)

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: September 24th, 2011 03:45 am (UTC)
Re: Love it :)

Posted by: ((Anonymous))
Posted at: August 3rd, 2010 04:30 am (UTC)

approximate arrival? is there going to be anything by the end of this year? thats fine, i just want to know around when i should come back to this story.

Posted by: jenny_wren28 (jenny_wren28)
Posted at: August 7th, 2010 11:26 pm (UTC)

Sorry, but we don't have an approximate arrival time. We're working on the story, but honestly, it could be 2 months or 2 years (though hopefully not nearly that long of a wait). We have no way of knowing - our lives are a bit busy & hectic.

Hopefully though, it'll be worth the wait.

Thanks for your enthusiasm. :)

Posted by: charscara (charscara)
Posted at: February 22nd, 2011 02:49 pm (UTC)
Real Love

i'm dieing to know how the story goes on!
i really love it! and your writing is soo good! are you 'real' writers as well? i mean do you do it for a living? i bet you could!

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: March 4th, 2011 07:06 pm (UTC)
Re: Real Love

Sorry for the belated response. That was such a nice compliment! We don't write for a living, but we are both working on original novels too, as well as working full time on unrelated things!

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: September 24th, 2011 03:45 am (UTC)
Re: Real Love

Posted by: Princess Di (harmonyy)
Posted at: March 8th, 2011 04:21 am (UTC)

I absolutely love the stories you guys have written. I read Yes It Is back when it was first being published and I reread it, Tomorrow Never Knows, and all of the supplemental stories just recently (In fact, I pulled an all-nighter reading them). I just love the writing style of the stories and I can't wait for Real Love to come out. It'll definitely be worth the wait. :)

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: March 8th, 2011 04:28 am (UTC)

Aw, thank you so much! An all-nighter? We're flattered! :-)

We are still working on it, we promise. Real Life has been so busy, unfortunately! Thanks so much for letting us know you liked our stories!

Posted by: Princess Di (harmonyy)
Posted at: March 8th, 2011 04:35 am (UTC)

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: September 24th, 2011 03:45 am (UTC)

Posted by: scribesisland (politiguru)
Posted at: August 11th, 2011 11:56 pm (UTC)

Hi all! Hope everyone is having a good - and literary productive - Summer! How's "Real Love" coming so far? It's been some months since you've noted anything here, and just wanted to see if you anticipate releasing anything over the Fall or if 2012 is more realistic?

Been busy myself, but always try to stay current on LJ and see who's around and who's on holiday. Sooooo parched for fanfics lately! Bye for now.

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: January 2nd, 2012 08:08 pm (UTC)

Just added two chapters!

Posted by: ((Anonymous))
Posted at: December 22nd, 2011 07:31 am (UTC)

I cannot wait till you guys update again! I absolutely love your stories! I just read all the chapters in a matter of 3 days! Wonderful!

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: January 2nd, 2012 08:08 pm (UTC)

Thank you so much for saying this!

Posted by: ((Anonymous))
Posted at: January 30th, 2012 10:26 pm (UTC)

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: February 1st, 2012 03:33 am (UTC)

Posted by: ((Anonymous))
Posted at: February 24th, 2012 02:54 am (UTC)

Just came across your stories and love them! I only got 3 hours sleep last night because of reading, but it was worth it. Can't wait for an update. Thank you!

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: April 12th, 2012 12:40 am (UTC)

Aw! Thank you so much! New chapter is up!

Posted by: ((Anonymous))
Posted at: August 14th, 2012 04:09 pm (UTC)

More please! :)

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: September 9th, 2012 04:59 pm (UTC)
pepper suits

Chapter 15 will be up soon - it's done, just being edited!

Posted by: scribesisland (politiguru)
Posted at: October 30th, 2012 01:22 am (UTC)
pic#107142277

Hi all. Haven't seen an update in a while. Still check in to LJ as often as possible. Just wanted to see if Ch 16 and more were still coming.

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: October 30th, 2012 07:03 pm (UTC)

Chapter 16 is done and just being edited! It'll be up soon, I promise! :-) Thanks for your patience!

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: November 3rd, 2012 05:03 pm (UTC)

Posted by: scribesisland (politiguru)
Posted at: January 16th, 2013 08:45 am (UTC)
pic#107142277

Happy New Year, guys! ...How goes Ch 17? ...Is 'Real Love' looking good for 2013!

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: January 19th, 2013 02:51 pm (UTC)
pepper suits

Sorry things have been so slow - we hit the holiday season and things got really crazy. But it's the next priority!

Posted by: scribesisland (politiguru)
Posted at: February 3rd, 2013 05:29 am (UTC)

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: February 20th, 2013 10:46 pm (UTC)

Posted by: paulinajane (paulinajane)
Posted at: February 18th, 2013 08:06 pm (UTC)
pic#119994510

Hows chapter 17 going?

Posted by: paulinajane (paulinajane)
Posted at: February 19th, 2013 08:09 pm (UTC)
pic#119994510

Of real love :)

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: March 18th, 2013 08:32 pm (UTC)

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: February 20th, 2013 10:43 pm (UTC)

Posted by: paulinajane (paulinajane)
Posted at: February 21st, 2013 05:55 am (UTC)

Posted by: ((Anonymous))
Posted at: March 18th, 2013 02:55 pm (UTC)

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: March 18th, 2013 08:31 pm (UTC)

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: August 23rd, 2013 08:21 pm (UTC)

Posted by: ((Anonymous))
Posted at: August 15th, 2013 11:10 pm (UTC)

How ya doin on chpter 19 of real love?😉

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: August 20th, 2013 08:09 pm (UTC)
pepper suits

It's 2/3 written - promise it's coming soon!

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: August 23rd, 2013 08:21 pm (UTC)

Posted by: ((Anonymous))
Posted at: January 31st, 2014 09:17 am (UTC)

hi i just read the Yes It Is stories and the sequels, great stories! and a well-written story line! please continue writing Real Love!!!

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: March 13th, 2014 02:07 am (UTC)
pepper suits

Hi there - so sorry we've been slow to update - thank you so much for your comments though, we are so glad you have enjoyed the story!

Posted by: ((Anonymous))
Posted at: February 4th, 2014 06:46 am (UTC)

Are ypu going to continue this story? I really hope you do because i love your writing and this story! Plus im dying to know what happens in everyones future. Please continue!

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: June 12th, 2014 07:42 pm (UTC)
pepper suits

Thank you so much! We will continue, but it may not be soon! We really appreciate you commenting!

Posted by: ((Anonymous))
Posted at: February 27th, 2014 12:57 am (UTC)

Hey!!
I discovered these stories today- and read Yes It Is, Tomorrow Never Knows and Real Love all in ONE DAY!!
I'm in love myself-- and am dying for an update already, is one planned soon?

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: March 13th, 2014 02:08 am (UTC)
pepper suits

Oh wow! We're so glad you enjoyed the stories so much! We will eventually continue, things have just been crazy busy. Thanks so much for your comments though!

Posted by: ((Anonymous))
Posted at: April 22nd, 2014 09:23 am (UTC)

Posted by: Lovely Rita (lovely_rita_mm)
Posted at: June 12th, 2014 07:43 pm (UTC)

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